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Article: The Reality of al-Harakaah al-Shabaab al-Mujaahideen in Somalia
Tuesday, 02 February 2010
By Hassan Somali

A brief response to a question that was raised about this particular group. Hopefully, it will be sufficient for those who are sincere in their search of the truth.

However, it is obligatory to differentiate between the legislated Jihaad which Allaah and His Messenger has commanded and the innovated Jihaad which is the Jihaad (waged by) misguided individuals who perform Jihaad in obedience to the Devil but they believe that they are performing Jihaad in obedience to The Most Merciful (ar-Rahmaan). This is like the Jihaad of the people of innovation and desires such as the Khawaarij and other than them who fight against the people of Islām…


What Is The Methodology Of Shabaab?

“A member of her household bore witness.” (Yusef: 26)

Ahmed Godane, who is currently one of the leaders of this household (i.e. Shabaab), stated in a recorded message to Bin Laden :

“Here we are at your service, O our Ameer, our Shaykh, O Abū ‘Abdullāh. The Mujaahidoon here are well.”

“We give you glad tidings of that which will delight you, and we await your directions.”

"May Allaah bless your actions and your Jihaad."


You can also hear some of the members of Shabaab instructing a group of young children to shout the following:

“We love you, O Usaamah!”
“We love you, O Usaamah, and we (pledge) to hear and obey you!”


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We recieved the following response to the aforementioned article on al-Shabaab:

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> From: muhammad [This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.]
> Sent: February-04-10 02:33
> To: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
> Subject: |troid.ca| Globalising Islamic Knowledge: shabaab
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> This is an enquiry e-mail via www.troid.ca from:
> muhammad <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
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> who is the munafiq who would poste this type of an article about the
> shabaab. take away the shabaab who is going to fill that gap in my
> country the TFG puppets with there democracy, the sufi militia ? who?
> they say shabaab is 5-7 thousand they have administrations governing
> the capital nd allmost every major city in the south and central
> regions of my country, not based on a clan militia and they put the
> flag of islam up opposing democracy, these 5-7 thousand men have to
> govern one of the most dangerous countries in the world fight the
> high way robbers, the clan militias, goverment forces, ethiopian
> forces american air strikes, TFG forces, sufi forces, and AU forces
> yet this small very small number of brothers are able to keep
> stability in the regions unde there control and keep the shariah
> without bias of clan race or any prejudice. they are the goverment
> of atleast 6 million somalis who live in there area of control or more
> and there number is so few. and there financial capabilities and any
> other economic capabilities so limited. how can anybody say they
> strive as hard as these young men and how could anybody talk bad
> about these defenders of tawhid who never gave up jihad and the quest
> of establishing shariah. if you really are muslim then you would
> support your brothers who fight for islam , u would support them with
> your wealth your person or ur duwah, but instead the only thing you
> can do is look for any short comeings, slander and attack those who
> left there homes for the sake of Allah those who would gladly give up
> there lifes for there brothers, truly you cannot be a believer if you
> are the enemy of your brothes and all you do is try and bring them
> down, brothers help one another so you can defanetly not be a brother
> of any muslim, how can you bring any productivity in the ummah if you only attack anybody who is doing something and try and look at what there not doing as apose to what they are doing, what are you doing, if you are so rightly
> guided then why arnt you helping there helping them to do what is best,
> the fact is your a coward and you only have words without action. your
> word about whos pants are above ther ankles, why dont you worry about
> your brothers defending this religion why dont you worry about what
> your not doing that they are doing why dont you help people instead of
> refuting people, who ever posted this article and believes in the
> content in it is clearly misguided and a munafiq


This response is a common rant...how/why do you speak about the takfeeree, jihaadees (regardless of their indiscriminate killing of Muslim/non-Muslim civilians), when you should focus more on speaking against the oppression of the kuffar. Deviod of ayaat, aḥādīth, athaar of the Salaf just anger and takfeer (calling the author and those who believe in its content 'munaafiqeeen' in essence ejecting them from the fold of Islaaam). The question being

'where should we put more attention to - the plots of some of the kuffar (whose agenda is manifest to the Muslims from sea to sea) or the deviation of ahlul-bid'ah (i.e. the kharajees who call Muslims to kill other Muslims and civilians under the banner of Islām -confusing the Muslims as to whether they should be supported or not)

Let us look to how one of the Imāms of the Salaf approached the topic (in comparison to This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. says):

After mentioning that those who deviate from the orders of Allaah are in categories Ibn Qudama Al Maqdisi (died 689 Hijra) mentioned:

Section Two: The innovator, if he is one who calls toward innovation and the innovation is from those that will make him a disbeliever then his matter is more severe than that of a Thimmi because he would neither agree to pay the Jizyah nor would he (be given) make an agreement to live as a Thimmi. And if it is that his innovation does not make him a disbeliever, then the affair between himself and Allah is less severe than the situation of the Kāfir without doubt. But in terms of (him being criticised and) detesting what he does (in terms of his innovation) then this is dealt with more severity than the Kāfir.

This is because the evil of the Kāfir does not extend (to the Muslims) as none of the Muslims would pay attention to his speech. And this is different than the innovator who calls toward his innovation because he thinks that what he is calling toward is the truth. He therefore becomes a reason for the misguidance of the creation and his evil extends (to the Muslims). Therefore openly displaying enmity toward him, boycotting him, being an enemy towards him, humiliating him, being harsh upon him because of his innovation and running the people away from him becomes more severe.

As for the innovator who is ignorant and unable to call (toward his innovation) and it is not feared that he would be followed then this affair is less harmful. And what takes precedence is that one should be kind toward him in giving advice since the hearts of the laymen change quickly. However, if advice does not benefit him and turning away from him would show hate for his innovation in itself, then it is preferable to turn away from him. And if he knows that this has no effect upon him because of his stubborn nature and firm belief in his heart (for the innovation) then turning away from him takes precedence, because if one does not show hatred for innovation it will spread between the creation and the evil of it will become common.

(Ibn Qudama Al Maqdisi, Minhaaj Al Qaasideen pg. 123, Maktabah Al Islami Print)


Ibn Qudama identifies three issues:

1. The caller to Innovation who invites to innovation that exits a person from the fold of Islam.
2. The caller to innovation who invites to innovation that does not exit a person from the fold of Islam.
3. The common person who practices innovation that does not exit a person from the fold of Islam; he does not call to it and it is not feared that he will be imitated in this
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Assalāmu 'alaykum. This is a sincere question in-shaa Allaah. There are some quotes I have here from the email of Muhammad [This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.]. They are: [1] "they say shabaab is 5-7 thousand they have administrations governing the capital nd allmost every major city in the south and central regions of my country,..." [2] "...these 5-7 thousand men have to govern one of the most dangerous countries in the world..." [3] "they are the goverment of atleast 6 million somalis who live in there area of control or more and there number is so few."

So my question is, are they considered to be government/ruler? If they are government/ruler can we speak against them in public? JazaakAllaahu khayran.

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